Day 016 - 22 Jul 94 - Page 19


     
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         MR. MORRIS:  Could I come in?  Let us just say statistically
     2        associated, yes?  You have quoted a number of those in
              your statement.  Is it true that in your statement you
     3        have criticised scientific studies that have linked
              statistically associated a diet high in saturated fats and
     4        various cancers?
              A.  What I have said is that it is extremely difficult to
     5        establish the cause, at least, what the role of diet is in
              the development of different cancers for a whole variety
     6        of reasons which I explained the other day.
 
     7   Q.   But a number of people have done that, and you have
              criticised them?
     8        A.  People have looked at different aspects at the end of
              the day.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we just pause because, do you really
    10        mean that people have established ---
 
    11   MR. MORRIS:  No.
 
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- the cause, because when the witness said:
               "It is extremely difficult to establish the cause", you
    13        said:  "Well, a lot of people have done that".  I am not
              sure that is what your case is.
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         MR. MORRIS:  I give an example on page 26.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They may have reached the conclusion in
    16        their own minds that it be so, I do not know.
 
    17   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know why Mr. Wheelock does not want to
              say what he said in his statement.  You have said in your
    18        statement, have you not, that a number of studies, there
              may be tens, hundreds or thousands, have drawn the
    19        conclusion that there is a link with, not necessarily a
              causal link but certainly a statistical link between a
    20        diet height in saturated fats and cancer of the breast and
              colon, for example, is that correct?
    21        A.  There would be -- there is a research which has been
              done which suggests there is an association between.  But
    22        let me go on and reiterate that if a person has a diet
              which is restricted to a limited number of foods and that
    23        has a high fat content, has a high salt content, then I am
              not in the least surprised that they have disease
    24        problems.  That I think we can probably -----
 
    25   Q.   Breast and colon cancer?
              A.  It might turn out to be like that. 
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I want you to pause for a moment.  You put 
    27        to the witness: "You have said in your statement, have you
              not, that a number of studies -- there may be tens,
    28        hundreds or thousands -- have drawn the conclusion that
              there is a link"; then you said, "not necessarily a causal
    29        link but a statistical link".  If that is so, I would like
              to be referred to where that is in Professor Wheelock's
    30        statement so I can take it on board.
 

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