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     1        normal level.
              A.  I apologise.  All I am saying is that there is
     2        evidence which indicates that we have a serious health
              problem here and now with a certain sector of the
     3        population, and that this is occurring because they are
              being advised and encouraged to switch to vegetarianism.
     4        What I am saying ---
 
     5   MS. STEEL:  One study?
              A. -- what I am saying to you is that if you are
     6        criticising ----
 
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Who is advising them and encouraging them?
              A.  The point I am making -----
     8
         Q.   It may just be a number of girls of a certain age; one or
     9        two schools might think it would be a good idea to try
              vegetarianism?
    10        A.  It is very widespread.  I know there is campaigning
              going on in schools.
    11
         Q.   We are talking about this article at the moment.
    12        A.  This article is an indication of what is happening in
              schools in this country at the present time, and it seems
    13        to me that if McDonald's is being criticised on
              hypothetical grounds, that people advocating vegetarianism
    14        also need to be very careful in the way in which they put
              forward their ideas; equally, if they are not advising the
    15        people that they are advocating vegetarianism to, to have
              a healthy balanced diet with a variety of foods, then they
    16        are equally being irresponsible.  That is all.
 
    17   MS. STEEL:  You are basing this on one study.  We have seen
              lots of studies that are not hypothetical situations where
    18        people with cancer have been compared with control groups
              and they have been asked about what they have eaten.
    19        A.  Yes.
 
    20   Q.   You have criticised those studies.  Why are you placing
              reliance on one study?
    21        A.  I am not placing heavy reliance. What I am pointing
              out is that it is providing evidence which is consistent
    22        with what we know about the dietary, about the composition
              of the different foods in the diet.  And if meat is a
    23        major source of iron in the diet and people stop eating
              it, which seems to be what is happening, without making
    24        corresponding changes in their diet, then it is perfectly
              sound and reasonable to expect that they will suffer from
    25        an iron deficiency.
  
    26   Q.   You know full well, do you not, that meat is not the only 
              source of iron in the diet? 
    27        A.  I do.
 
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He has, in effect, said that.
 
    29   MS. STEEL:  I shall just draw something else to your
              attention:  I do not think this study says anywhere that
    30        these people, these school children, were actually
              vegetarians as opposed to just not eating meat because

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