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     1   Q.   There are quite a lot of people who have an intake less
              than that?
     2        A.  Well, sure, but I mean the whole point about having
              this is so that people can adjust their intake to what is
     3        actually recommended.
 
     4   MS. STEEL:   Perhaps I should address this to Mr. Justice
              Bell:  I do not think the plaintiffs should be allowed to
     5        place reliance on this chart unless they supply the
              figures behind it, otherwise we cannot begin to look at
     6        it, to test to see whether it is accurate and reliable.
 
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think that is a comment which you have to
              make at the end of the day.
     8
         MS. STEEL:  Right.  I bring this up because yesterday, you may
     9        remember, we brought up the Peckham Fastfood Survey and
              Mr. Rampton made a lot noise about us having to prove it.
    10        I think they should have to prove this.
 
    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will have to see what, if any, weight is
              attached to that chart.  I have to say we have had more
    12        specific evidence one way or the other.
 
    13   MS. STEEL:  I want to submit now that unless they provide the
              information, it should not be allowed.
    14        A.  Well, perhaps if I could be helpful.  We have provided
              the detailed information for the UK.
    15
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I know you have.
    16        A.  The US would not apply to the UK; the UK would apply
              to the US.
    17
         MS. STEEL:   Not really, because the fat contents are
    18        different, are they not?
 
    19   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do have in my hand "McDonald's Food -
              the Facts" for September 1990, which in the back, as for
    20        the preceding three or four years, are set out the fat
              calorie -- sorry, carbohydrate, protein, cholesterol,
         sodium, vitamins, and so on, contents of every single item
              on the menu.  If Professor Wheelock could take it away
    22        with him, he could certainly calculate the values for this
              chart.
    23
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He could do in so far as there were menu
    24        items.
 
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
  
    26   MS. STEEL:  He could not do it in terms of the other meals and 
              he also could not do it in terms of anything that has 
    27        changed since that booklet was published.
 
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suppose he could look in  his Bible in so
              far as that may relate to US foods, but I have your point.
    29        It is probably obvious, but what does the small "c" stand
              for?
    30
         MS. STEEL:   I think it is cups.