Day 016 - 22 Jul 94 - Page 08


     
     1   MS. STEEL:   No, I am just saying it could be misleading unless
              you look at it carefully.
     2        A.  It is perfectly possible that people could have
              breakfast at home and then pop into McDonald's on their
     3        way to the office, or wherever they are going.
 
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You would be a bit daft if you had your
              Thursday night snack -- well, maybe that is right; maybe
     5        you could have a slice of angel cake and a half of
              strawberries and then go home.
     6
         MS. STEEL:  You would have difficulty on Monday morning if you
     7        ate your shredded wheat at home but you had your low fat
              milk at McDonald's.
     8
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That was not the intention on this chart?
     9        A.  No, I do not think so, as far as I know, but I think
              what I would point out is that if you look at the ones
    10        that have the lines on the outside, as far as can I see
              there are eight where everything comes from McDonald's.
    11
         MS. STEEL:  Yes, some of them are just snacks?
    12        A.  Yes, but some people go to McDonald's for a snack.
 
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They are not particularly well highlighted
              on the photocopy.
    14        A.  That is true.
 
    15   MR. RAMPTON:  I think maybe the witness ought to have a look at
              the original because on the original one can see very
    16        clearly that the complete meals are picked out.
 
    17   MS. STEEL:  I am aware of that.  I am just saying if people do
              not look carefully.
    18        A.  Again without going into detail about the data on
              visits to McDonald's, I think it will be clear that it
    19        would be a very, very small proportion of customers in
              McDonald's who would eat anything like as much as that in
    20        a McDonald's during the course of one week.
 
    21   Q.   Right.
 
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We went through that yesterday.
 
    23   MS. STEEL:  As a final point, without the figures behind, this
              chart is basically meaningless because no-one can examine
    24        it and criticise it because they just do not know what it
              is based on?
    25        A.  I do not quite follow what your point is.  This is
              purely for the purposes of demonstration.  It indicates 
    26        that it is perfectly feasible to have a very substantial 
              proportion of products that a person eats during the week 
    27        that are bought and are consumed in McDonald's and that
              fit into a total diet and that the diet, as a whole, meets
    28        the recommendations.  There is nothing more than that.
 
    29   Q.   The first chart is for someone with a 3,000 calorie
              intake, is it not?
    30        A.  It is, yes.
 

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