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     1   MISS STEEL:  We are working around the statement between the
              two of us.
     2
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You carry on in your own way.  If you feel
     3        at any stage it would help if Mr. Lipsett has a copy of
              his statement in front of him, then ask for that.
     4
         MISS STEEL:  Right, OK.  I think you may -- have you got it
     5        there anyway?
              A.  Yes, I do.
     6
         Q.   Just to go back to the meetings, the round table
     7        meetings:  They were also attended by -- as well as
              community groups, there were also business representatives
     8        and government officials and larger groups such as
              Greenpeace?
     9        A.  That is correct.
 
    10   Q.   To move on to the campaign itself:  You have told us that
              the Citizens Clearing House for Hazardous Waste
         coordinated the nationwide campaign from October 1987, but
              I believe the campaign actually started before then; is
    12        that right?
              A.  That is correct.  The original, the first action by a
    13        local community group involved in the McToxics campaign
              occurred in August, on August 1st, of 1987.  I think that
    14        is a significant date.  On August 1st 1987 McDonald's
              restaurants in certain communities in Vermont were
    15        picketed by local community activists from an organisation
              called Vermonters Organise for Clean Up.
    16
              Subsequent to that, the nationwide day of action occurred
    17        in October, but the Clearing House itself was publicising
              the day of action through the summer of 1987, and so these
    18        materials were in wide circulation prior to the beginning
              of the actual campaign, the first day of action.
    19
         Q.   Right.  I think you had circulated literature to thousands
    20        of people?
              A.  That is correct.  Our mailing list at the time
         encompassed about 22,000 people in the United States as
              well as in other countries.
    22
         Q.   So in October 1987 the first nationwide day of action took
    23        place?
              A.  That is correct.
    24
         Q.   Against McDonald's foam packaging?
    25        A.  That is correct.
  
    26   Q.   Can you tell us a bit more about that? 
              A.  Well, the first nationwide day of action involved 
    27        about 100 different community organisations which picketed
              McDonald's restaurants in various places in the country.
    28        These pickets, generally speaking, were composed of
              ordinary housewives and students and, in some cases,
    29        members of larger environmental organisations such as
              Greenpeace and members of my organisation in one case.
    30
         Q.   I think there was a range of people going from school