: Can you do more than from call me names and make wide assumptions? If you would address the issue of whether or not I am unethical,
immoral, or just plain bad for eating meat instead of dancing around it
I might take this further. So far, I've heard a toned down argument
suggesting that if "they (animals) lived relatively free and painless
lives until the very end, when the farmer would take them aside and
suddenly shoot them or chop their heads off - I'd be far less
concerned than I am now." Is that really true? If it is, then your
statement still indicates some concern with meat eating. What is that
concern Mike? It is quite apparant that you have a moral or ethical
reservation about it. I want to know why your morality exceeds mine.
I wouldn't keep harping on it but you did it again in one of your
last posts with the statement; "Are you telling me that you will
acknowledge the "excesses" of the meat industry (as you put it --
that's like Clinton denouncing the "excesses" of the Chinese gov't in
Tianneman Square) only if I withhold judgment of meat-eating?"
No Mike, it's not like Tianneman Square. It's not even close
to it. This nonsense equates the meat industry killing of animals
with the Chinese communist government killing human beings. There
could be no plainer moral judgement than this. Is this how you operate?
I will not denounce any excess of the meat industry until you relegate
rhetoric that links humans and animals in this way to the killing
floor.
Finally, When you say, "How much sin is needed before one is bad?
Big, metaphysical question, which I don't think we need to resolve for
the purposes of this debate. Suffice it to say that when I condemn
meat-eating as wrong, it is the practice of eating meat, and not the
practitioner, which I consider immoral.", all you do is reiterate our,
as yet, unresolved differences.
Find me a functional difference between what a person is and what he
does Mike. Are you saying I might be a good guy except when I eat a
burger? Or are you saying that a man is not defined by his actions?
I don't want to go too far down this road but you are certainly
suggesting in the last quote that I participate in immoral activity.
Aren't you!?
Be a vegetarian. Have a blast. If you critisize me for my choices
be prepared to offer the basis for your moral code. So far, you have
not unless you see your opinion to be superior to mine. I don't.
Stuart Gort
