: SDF: I thought that in the last half-century or so it was mainly the US government that was largely responsible for creating wars Don: And I thought it was the communists, with their various "wars of national liberation".
:-- the US was entirely responsible for creating the phony regime "South Vietnam" (against the dictum of the agreed-upon Geneva convention, which decreed an election to unite North and South Vietnam to be held in 1956 AT THE LATEST) and sustaining it through warfare for two decades, at a cost of two million lives...
Don: And there is the Sino-Vietnamese war, and the Korean war, and the Soviet invasion of Afganistan, and the wars between India and Pakistan, and the Russian war against Chechnia, and the Falklands, and a Soviet attempt to start a revolution in Mexico, and the Soccer war, the war between Iran and Iraq, and the various Marxist revolutions in Asia, Africa, and South America.
:then there's the 100,000 or so children that have died due to the embargo upon Iraq,
Don: Yeah, right.
:and we should certainly count that phoniness in Kosovo as US aggression -- it's like a State Department official said during the bombing: "We intentionally set the bar too high for the Serbs to comply. They need some bombing, and that's what they are going to get."
Don: And of course we claimed the Serbs killed 100,000 while we were bombing them (and had no way to verify), then we quietly revised down to 10,000 and now we are having trouble finding mass graves.
: And then there's the nonsense the US government is planning today in Colombia, kind of like that nonsense visited upon El Salvador and Nicaragua in the early 1980s with the blessings of US guns and money, not to mention the fun the Secret Team had with the governments of Haiti, Panama, Guatemala (1952, getting rid of Rios De Montt), Iran (1956, installing the Shah), Brazil (1964, replacing Goulart with a dictatorial junta), Chile (1974, ousting Allende after his election), the Phillipines (since the US conquered them before WWI) etc. etc. A good place to start unbrainwashing oneself in this regard is Howard Zinn's book A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES, or anything of Chomsky.
Don: After the Sandistas were out of power, the mass graves of some of their victims were found. Funny, but lefties seem to overlook this . . .
: It's like Gary Nash et al. say in HISTORY ON TRIAL: there are two versions of patriotism at work in the history wars, one intent upon sugarcoating history to make the US government look good, the other intent upon telling the truth to make the US government a better government. (I'm paraphrasing because I'm not using my computer at home and the book is at home.)
Don: The current leftist historical revisionism is neither patriotic nor interested in the truth. Rather, it creates its own "truth" to reach pre-determined conclusions.
