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: Stoller:
: The reason I mentioned Trotsky is because no one better symbolizes the fact that you are WRONG when you say 'Marxism led to Stalin'.: Trotsky---indeed all of the Bolsheviks---died for what they believed in.
: Guess what that was?
: Doc:
: Probably the same things that the Nazis died for: personal ambition, power, some ridiculous and contrived ideological fairy-tales, etc. Most died because they couldn't be troubled to think for themselves, and allowed some self appointed 'expert' to decide their lives for them. For a large proportion of the rest, like the Cheka, or the SS camp guards, or the Eisenstruppen, or the NKVD, they were sadists who didn't know when the jig was up.
---representing the humanist ideology of Marx and Engels---were slaughtered by Stalin to prevent Marxism from flourishing in the U.S.S.R.
Or, apparently anywhere else that it's been tried. Care to give us poor ignorant folks solid examples of a flourishing Marxist state?
By the by, I seem to recall that the Trotskyites gave their approval of the Russians who goosestepped into Checkoslovakia and murdered something like 30,000 people.