Who said "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.":Working Men of All Countries, Unite! Give up? Yup, good 'ole Marx himself. He expounds force, why not others?
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: McSpotlight: Frenchy, do you actually have anything *useful* to say? It's clear that you're on the Cap. side of the debate; well and good; but do you have anything positive to contribute to it; or is your sole method of arguing to sit on the sidelines and jeer at those engaged in real debate?
Seriously McSpotlight, what's to debate?
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McSpotlight: Well, debating *is* usually the reason for contributing to a Debating Room...
(This message somehow fouled up when first posted to the DR; I've had to reconstruct it and re-post it to the DR; sorry for the delay.)