: Or what would I do about the butchers in Turkery? In colombia, in indonesia- in fact, as Chomsky recently said, if the US were concerned with human rights, their first step should be the cheap and painless task of stopping supporting them, stop giving aid to brutal regimes, and then, perhaps, presnet themselves as the defenders of human rights.: Now, further, you are playing scruples, with a loaded question 'have I stopped beating my wife?', my answer is, I wouldn't have aided Milosovich to keep teh Serbianm Army, wouldn't have helped Serbia carve up Bosnia, and I would have gone into honest peace talks, instead of delivering an ultimatum.
And if all this had no effect? If he gave you an ultimatum?
He is a dictator you know, it's worth a war just to get rid of him.
: : I think this is a prime example of the Left I hate, yrs in opposition mean they're to keen to bitch even when the powers that be are doing something right. Now Bitching can be positive if you say no, no not like that like this and demonstrate an effective, superior alternative to what is going on which is also something very rarely seen on the left too.
: No War but the class war.
Dogma, people die.
