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: : : : Sorry sam....not over priviledged, just made sacrifices, relied on the resources, friends, family, school teachers, friends parents for advice, help, and encouragement to make a difference in my life for me.....how novel eh?: : I'm sorry for being presumptuous, Kevin, I should never presume anything about you on the basis of an e-mail conversation. Nevertheless your reply is beside the point. I've worked with countless children who don't have your "resources" to work with. They don't have parents to rely upon, resources to use, friends to help them. Which by their standards makes you "privileged." I've explained this privilege previously.
: Hell sam, they got you....and the internal network of support is non existent? This is the majority of the cases, is it sam? You speak for all of these underprviledged? Sounds to me like another case of you using the minority of the example to justify an ideology to the majority....context, context, context.
: : It's also true that working hard has no relationship to privilege or lack of privilege. Most of my privileged fellow graduates of the elite high school I went to, they're working very hard as doctors and lawyers. So are the women of Malaysia described in Aihwa Ong's SPIRITS OF RESISTANCE AND CAPITALIST DISCIPLINE, who work so hard for multinationals that they are "possessed by spirits" on the factory shopfloors. CEOs, for instance, work extremely hard, yet are nevertheless generally more privileged than those thousands of employees whose jobs they downsize. Jeremy Rifkin, on his most recent speaking tour in favor of a reduced workweek for everyone, has been able to impress a major point upon the CEOs he's spoken to when he's asked them what their schedules are, and if they themselves are overworked.
: What is your point ted, that inequalities exist? Who does not know that? Are we hear to correct all of this, or simply acknowledge this? I am unclear by any of your responses, they do not seem to have any real framework, or direction, a lot of huge ideas with little cause for implementation. When asked a specific question, I get a very large, open statement, or a simply sentence that implies massive change. If you do not get offended, then sometimes you will use some large capitals, or link to some other place for me to clarify....why can't you just answer a question and follow it through to implementation? That is the great thing about all of your replies, they offer no structure.....people get moved by ideas ted, but they rally around action.
: As for access to priviledge...what is your point? If you want to change the situation in malaysia, what is your solution? Give an answer this time, not another boring display of fact finding, and quotes. Talk to me sam.....give all of us an answer.
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: McSpotlight comments:
: it seems as if someone who is going by the name Kevin is being picked on by McSpotlight here, but this is the third message where content and arguement seems to be a secondary issue to attacks on style and personality. Refrain.
Yes, you are picking on Kevin. But you already knew that didn't you.
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McSpotlight comments:
the comment made by McSpotlight was in response to what was occuring throughout the thread ... not just 'Kevin's' message. It seemed to reach a climax during the messages directly before and during the above one sent by 'kevin'. If there was bias it was meant to be towards 'Debate' and 'Inclusion' by NOT making some feel as if these boards are just there for abuse and slatings.
'Kevin' posted approx. 4 messages in response to 4 seperate previous messages - it was unfortunate that ALL of them contained an element of the above 'abuse'.
'Kevin' should not feel victimised by the McSpotlight comments - it was and is meant as a general indicator that this kind of messaging is non-productive and excludes debate - this includes any previous messages that adhered to the base arguments of insult - Kevin in responding to the 'insult' had the opportunity to counter this with argument ... that 'kevin' chose to respond with equal 'insult' required a 'comment'.
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