: : : SDF: Let's ask this: Why is the model for the "individual" under capitalist society always the white, European, property-owning (see C.B. MacPherson's POSSESSIVE INDIVIDUALISM), dominant male, swathed in a mythology of "rugged individualism" (see Stephanie Coontz' THE WAY WE NEVER WERE)? : : WW: Because capitalism developed in Europe first. Good lord man, any ten year old knows this!
Qx: Simpleton logic for the sake of obfuscation. Also, pretty much reflective of the mentality of a ten-year old.
: : SDF: No, the point is that the dominant Euro white property-owning male has continued to be the model for "individuality" even though such individualities, such people, have had to recognize the real individualities of, for instance, the 1/6 of planetary human population that starves to death, or the victims of American imperialism as it crushed those in the world who espoused alternative ways of conceptualizing individuality, or the 500,000 non-Whites who died in Rwanda (with the help of the West) over the past few years... the point is that the stupidity about individuality has persisted not only among those who own and rule, but their ideological dupes as well.
WW: I agree that it's stupid - but so what?
Qx: Vain attempt at trivialization. One must wonder of Winslow thinks that driving with a flat tire is stupid but really not a problem at all.
WW: Replace it with collectivist ideology?
Qx: Actually, the dominant worldview of elites in the U.S.A. is pretty much collective. In other words, Winslow, these dominant elites claim to be for individualism while making a collective effort to keep the lower classes in their places and satisfied with consumer goodies and CNN typecastings of the "Cold War" and whatnot. There is such a thing as hypocrisy in case you haven't bothered to look.
WW: This would be an improvement?
Qx: It would be better than corporate governance.
WW: It's still just ideology - material forces would remain the same.
Qx: Explain this little assertion of yours. Are you capable?
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McSpotlight: Quincunx, do you have to jump down the guy's throat? You may find the guy's worldview to be alien or simple-minded; does that mean you have to call him a wanker?
