: What an amazing point!!!As I post such a lot (the marginal value to me of each extra post must be higher than the marginal value of doing something else with the same time) I'm going to score a direct 'insight' hit now and then!
: You've pointed out that Marx's 'means of production' were a idealized simplistic definition.
yes, I'm occasionally guilty of the same simplistic definitionism as Marx (but i dont get a site called www.gee.org all to myself), so I like to notice when I and others are at it.
: It's interesting that in a economy that Deathy describes as "capitalist" (whatever that means) he describes the 'unsweated-for" profits of capitalists as "exploitation". Yet, under what he describes as a "socialist" society a person who is physically incapable of working and yet partakes in the social product is not "exploiting" the workers. This does not follow and displays the whole force of Deathy's arguements as the moralizign it really is.
Precisely, better to just say "i think this is moral so there" and be done with it, rather than cloaking it.
: I am not denying moralizing as I do it as well.
I have a whole ranch of high horses myself!