: : Given your reference to Marx's critique of Proudhon I'd have figured you were somewhere along that spectrum. : SDF: You're still passing off your opinions as fact, as you have been ever since you started posting to this forum.
If I said that I think Micheal Jordan was 6ft6in we could go and verify it using a measuring tape. This is a hypothesis and not an opinion. Likewise, I made a guess as to your general view of things. It would help to try distinguising between the terms you use.
: If there's an appeal to emotion in your every post, its an appeal to the emotions felt by you yourself -- "I'm such a great guy who knows everything." You don't give references,:
This is bull. I give references all the time. Hume, Kant, Popper, Hayek, v. Mises, the dictionary, which absolutely no one else on this board does, Rhees-Mogg, Sellars, More (regardles of Sammy-boy's whining). What kind of references are you looking for? God?
: your philosophy of science has holes I could drive a truck through, and your criticisms are often childish.
Mmm, as I've never given my views on science I don't know what to make of this. However, if you're referring to my epistemological post "Classifications" it might have bolstered your case had you pointed out one or two of these holes. And, please, respond with just one childish criticism; oh, yeah, my responses to Lark don't count, as ridicule is the only response to the ridiculous.
: : Give me another label for yourself, please.
: SDF: No. Get lost.
Read: "I don't like the shape of the argument and don't want to play anymore.: If you don't like the argument, go home to mommy.
: : : : Maybe socialism is evolving past Marxism. A good paradigm shift and an excitingly heady one to contemplate.
: : : : Which tens of thousands of years ago included everyone. Remember, no per-social individual means no pre-modern tribalism. Which means that at one time lines of property were drawn because people managed better when they could define a sphere that was their responsibility, although still a unified tribal collective.
: : : SDF: Euro-Americans did NOT propertize the current territory of the United States of America "because people managed better when they could define a sphere that was their responsibility" -- they did it because they wanted to TAKE AWAY the land from First Nations stewardship and use it for their own purposes. People "managed better" in early imperialist societies (Greek, Roman etc.) when they could take what they wanted from other people -- there's no "responsibility" about it. Again, to quote the always-correct Joel Jacobson, who defends the Regime of Truth against the egregious errors of those stupider than he, "you are passing off your opinions as objective fact."
: : You're not even reading what I write are you. Later on, that very post, I specifically stated that conquest had taken much land through warfare and that this was definitely a viable issue worth discussing. However, the beginnings of discrete property and the price system within specific regions was the onus of your claim. Given the development within tribal units your claim simply does not hold up.
: SDF: Joel Jacobson claims his monopoly on the right to define what a conversation is about. My point is that the "maximization of utility" is a nonsense phrase saying nothing about social conditions.
Yeah, I do claim this right. It's a conversation begun by myself and possessing absolutely no pertinance to what you're referring to. This is not to say that what you're talking about has no relevance, but that what you're referring to does not have relevance to the current string. If you desire conversing regarding the Holocaust go ahead and start another string.
: : : Go back and read Marx, find out what alienation is.
: : Why? You're complete lack of any meaningful dialogue probably represents what I'd find there.
: SDF: Then continue to bandy the word about without half a clue about its meaning, discrediting yourself even further.
No, Red gave a perfectly good analysis of this and I responded in this string and others that the 'alientation' you all refer to happened as a part of the cultural evolution of the human race.
Hey, Sammy-Boy, do us all a favor and work on your reading comprehension.
