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Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on February 14, 1999 at 01:17:23:

In Reply to: No. Just Defending Evolution posted by Joel Jacobson on February 11, 1999 at 10:58:03:

: A socialist labeling Marx as propagandist? Interesting. Maybe socialism is evolving past Marxism. A good paradigm shift and an excitingly heady one to contemplate.

no, most SOcialist Accept that marx was a great propagandist- teh Communist Manifesto being teh prime example. Propaganda doesn't mean lying...

: This 'alienation', as you next suggest, was conciously and activly accepted by some past prole at one time or another. Thus, 'alienation' was the concious act of some past prole in order to maximize his/her personal utility. Remember, there was still co-operation and tribal altuism, however, the very faint beginnings of the labor and price system had begun to coagulate.

this is rampaging unsubstatiated cobblers! this utterly neglects the role of warfare, of merging tribes, or psychology and the myths of Kingship. The Working class had to be FORCED to be working class at sword and gun point, it was not a rational utility decision. Likewise capitalists became so by dint of theft and force, not by natural ability.




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