: All Utopians have this in common: they seek to overthrow, the methods vary, any current existing order they don't consider rational and replace it with one that has been specifically designed, a priori, instead of spontaneously evolved. SDF: No, actually you have utopians like Barry Stoller, who don't advocate overthrowing anything, and you have all sorts of utopians from among this list who aren't into overthrow, either.
I only read excerpts of Utopia in Western Lit class and don't think More specifically advocated overthrow; but we can rationally surmise that he advocated some radical changes based upon his limited, personal observations of social phenomema.
SDF: So your cocksureness about More's "limited, personal observations" is based on an admittedly half-baked reading of a translation of Utopia, and that's it? Of all of the zillions of books on utopianism in MELVYL or (name your college catalog)? Is this supposed to inspire us to place our confidence in your judgment?
