- Capitalism and Alternatives -

Socialism has never existed!

Posted by: Aardvark44 ( Martyr Magazine, United States of America ) on October 21, 1998 at 01:28:21:

In Reply to: Socialism/Marxism/Communism: Even in theory they suck! posted by CAP on August 06, 1997 at 21:31:05:

Firstly, all of you who feel that you can just debase Socialism (in quite childish terms, might I add) are wrong. Socialism has never been tried. Yes, yes, you read right. What existed in Russia after the fall of the tsarist government was not socialism. That goverment is what intelligent circles call "Stalinism." Joseph Stalin never instituted a socialist government, he so impudently operated a dictatorship under the facade of socialism. Thus, socialism has been defaced to being, in the mines of most these days, synonomous with tyranny and dictatorship. If you've really read Marx (which somehow I doubt) you will notice that nowhere does he suggest that a socialist government become corrupt, steal from its people, subject them to horrid living conditions, or operate in stifling secrecy. In fact, Marx even hints at a democratice socialism, which I support (along with some prestigious company, in the esteemed George Orwell). This passage is the second to last in the work - "Finally, communists work everywhere to promote mutual understanding among the democratic parties of all lands, and to bring about their unification." This strongly contradicts the claims of some of the debate participants.

So in summation, all of you have in actuality been debating between capitalism and totalitarianism. Now I suppose you can truly debate the subject at hand. For a further look into this and other fascinating topics, check out a webzine I help make - Martyr:

Farewell and Good Night.


Follow Ups:

The Debating Room Post a Followup