: : Barry has made it very clear that he does not believe in supra-class morality (i.e. moral absolutes). That makes his morality quite different from your own. Check out Trotsky's "Their Morals and Ours" (1938).: I believe that NO ONE can be a socialist without believing in supra-class morality, WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT. I think I have discerned enough of a sense of supra-class morality in Barry's posts, although he may not see this the same way, it meets my definition of supra-class morality. If someone didn't believe in supra-class morality, they wouldn't support socialism; they'd support a mere reversal of capitalism, with themselves as the new capitalists.
Here we have a problem with the semantics of the word "believe." I always thought that consciousness of one's belief is necessary to have a belief.
I do agree that a sense of moral indignation runs throughout Marx's work. What about "The Working Day" in Kapital? And I think it an important subject for discussion, but I share with Barry a resistance to the term "morality", even though I am going to use the term "moral device."
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