: BTW stoller punishment doesn't work, no matter how effective skinner thought it was.You just don't get it, do you? Skinner primarily opposed punishment because it was NOT effective.
To wit: 'It is generally not convenient to shape skillful behavior with a negative reinforcer because it elicits many respondents which may conflict, be incompatible wih the behavior to be shaped' (Holland & Skinner, The Analysis of Behavior, McGraw-Hill 1961, p. 219 § 32-37).
Discovering the scientific laws of punishment doesn't mean he ENDORSED them. Indeed, Skinner, through understanding those laws, wanted to replace them with POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT.
Try reading a bit about a topic before you act like an expert.