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NJ, here's why Hitler belongs on the left. Sorry.

Posted by: Frenchy on December 29, 1999 at 10:59:21:

Capitalism and Alternatives -

African civilization

Posted by: Nikhil Jaikumar ( DSA, MA, USA ) on December 25, 1999 at 17:03:45:

In Reply to: Verbs and Nouns, part two. posted by Frenchy on December 25, 1999 at 12:54:46:

Let's begin with the facts; teh Nazis, and all fascist groups, are creations of teh far Right. The
evidence for this is the following.
1) Nazis and conservatives agree that human traits and abilities are innate. Think of modern
conservatives saying that low-performing kids in school are genetically not equipped to learn,
and then think of the Nazis saying the same thing about the lower classes in Gernmany.
2) Nazis and conservatives both share an opposition to liberalism, Communism, Marxism,
and socialism. The Nazis' calling themselves national-socialists was akin to Leopold II calling
his private fiefdom the Congo Free State, or to Somoza calling himself the Liberal Party, or
to North Korea's cal;ling themselves a PEople's Democracy.
3) Nazis and conservatives both believed in competition over cooperation, and that hierrachy
and class society were the natural state of mankind.
4) The Nazis, ;like conservatives, upheld militarism; pacifism, on the other hand., has been
wholly a left wing movement.
5) The Nazis upheld nationalism, and racism, which are fundamentakllky incompatible with
left-wing ideologies.
Remember the historical alliances between the Nazis and other extreme Right-wing groups.
Trujillo in the DR; the Apartheid enthusiasts in South Africa; the Belgians in teh Congo; all of
these guys used or made common cause with the Nazis.

These are all fine points, as usual. The sad fact of the matter though is that your off base.
There are similarities between the economic/political structures of the former Soviet Union and the USA, but despite that no one says that the USA is a Communist state.
Anyways, here's a brief excerpt from "Considering the Political Spectrum, why Hitler was on the left", found at Free Republic.


Why Hitler Was a Left-winger; Left as Enemy of Individualism
Peikoff then quotes Fichte as saying "(T)he individual life has no real existence...since it has no value of itself,
but must and should sink to nothing... (T)he Race alone...ought to be looked upon as really living." Ahh, what a
glorious celebration of being you! The Nazi philosophy pursued this belief unfailingly. "They preached authority
above rights, the group above the individual, sacrifice above happiness, nihilism above morality, feelings above
facts, pliability above absolutes, obedience above logic..."
Does the rejection of the individual, the rejection of personal happiness, the rejection of morality, and the
rejection of facts and logic sound like behavior coming from the right? Quite the contrary, it sounds like a nutshell
summation of all Leftist ideology.


As I say, this is only a brief statement from that site. It makes for pretty good reading.
Unless you want to remain in your sad state of denial.
There's a neat picture of the political spectrum to help you along.

Wonder if McSpotlight will let this through?




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