: The SR's where a socialist party that wished to bring about change through agrarian reform...Exactly. 'Some' private ownership of the means of production.
: Therefore, what exactly do you mean by 'petty-bourgousie'?
See title. Refer to this post for future reference.
: The New Economic Policy, which you no doubt would consider a betrayal of the revolution as it allowed for relative inequality?
Not at all. I've said before that it was PROOF that Lenin WASN'T a dictator.
Stoller:
BTW, if Trotsky was as authoritarian as you claim, why did he CATAGORICALLY RULE OUT the possibility of ousting Stalin while he (Trotsky) still commanded incredible loyalty from the RED ARMY? A question for you to ponder...
: 'My Party, Right or Wrong' a Statement for you to ponder....
That's a dodge.
If you read Trotsky's Revolution Betrayed, especially pages 94 - 100, then you know he ADMITTED THE MISTAKES THE BOLSHEVIKS MADE.
Now, how about ANSWERING my question above?
: You clearly hold this person in high regard and so in trying to debate the issues and critically assess them I run the risk that you will consider these facts insults (this is unfortunate and seldom the case among free thinking anarchos or socialists), I do not consider your statement here to be fact but a mere defence of a position you consider to be important, like a Catholic defending the Spanish Inquisition because they think that questioning it would lead to a challenge of the church itself.
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: Trotsky was making a terrible statement to a congress (as the earlier statement of Crick indicated) on the importance of blind loyalty, or at least uncritical loyalty...
Are you sure you read The Revolution Betrayed?
Stoller:
Lenin never said the higher phase of communism would take place BEFORE the civil war determined which class was EVEN IN POWER.
: It's small issues like this...
The Civil War was a SMALL ISSUE?
: ...Humans are prone to error, so I dont seek to defend them errors and all...
I'm not. See the end of this post, please...
: When someone says to me they are a Marxian Socialist I consider it to something very similar to those who consider themselves Christian Socialists, there is a great element of thought in each that should be restricted to the private realm, in one it's religious inclination, in the other philosophical inclination, each have their prophets and I would prefer an order without prohpets and a mere socialism.
Enjoy your eclecticism.
None.
