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Have some confidence in the working class!

In Reply to: sectarian Marxism: waiting for the masses to be suckered posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on November 26, 1999 at 16:25:29:

Stoller:
Perhaps those who state UNEQUIVOCALLY that 100% of the means of production should be PUBLIC and that equality (through job rotation) should be a salient feature of the socialist state would be more trustworthy than those who state---with a million and one recondite qualifications---that SOME means of production should be private and SOME inequality is 'OK.'

Stoller:
May the best program win (the confidence of the working class)...

SDF: The working class has first-hand capitalist knowledge of what it's like to be taken for a sucker. Why should it trust "those who state UNEQUIVOCALLY..." anything? Read my lips, no new taxes anyone?

Sam, it sure looks like your 'trust' FOR the ENTIRE (spontaneous) working class is bound up pretty tightly with your trust for NO ONE.

Misanthropic communes, anyone?

Follow Ups:

• Yeah right Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 26 1999 (4)
  • Are you actually suggesting that 'capitalist democracy' IS democracy? Stoller November 27 1999 (3)
    • 'Quit writing off the working class' Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 27 1999 (0)
    • No, I'm suggesting it's better than nothing Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 27 1999 (1)
      • Capitalist democracy is not 'better than nothing'---it IS nothing Stoller November 29 1999 (0)