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No, it's not real socialism

In Reply to: I thought Martin Luther King said that first. posted by MDG on November 16, 1999 at 16:14:22:

: I thought Martin Luther King said that first. In any event, while I agree with the spirit of that statement, it's not exactly true. The socialist programs I work on often benefit the middle class and poor (although they benefit the wealthy far more).

SDF: Military recruitment of inner-city (read NONWHITE) kids is, in real life, "Keynesianism with an excuse". John Maynard Keynes was no socialist, didn't advocate anything close to it. Read Bertell Ollman's Marx: An Uncommon Introduction if you want to know where the ideal of "socialism" is headed.

Follow Ups:

• Who said anything about military recruitment? MDG November 16 1999 (14)
  • *sigh* Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 17 1999 (3)
    • Jeez, don't get so distraught over it. MDG November 18 1999 (2)
      • With libertarian Newspeak it's tough to communicate Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 19 1999 (1)
        • And the winner is... MDG November 19 1999 (0)
  • Socialism is the public ownership of industry. DonS USA November 17 1999 (9)
    • Oy, and me all out of black shoe polish! MDG November 18 1999 (2)
      • Fascism is an economic system where the government controls, but does not own, industry. dsheckler@yahoo.com USA November 19 1999 (1)
        • Fascists would very definitely disagree Lark November 19 1999 (0)
    • Congratulations. Nikhil Jaikumar DSA MA, USA November 17 1999 (3)
      • I never called him a fascist. DonS USA November 18 1999 (2)
        • Let me re-parse my last sentence Nikhil Jaikumar DSA MA, USA November 18 1999 (1)
          • I never called him a fascist DonS USA November 19 1999 (0)
    • Intellectual regression to babyhood Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA November 17 1999 (1)
      • Destruction of Terms and Meanings Kweassa the Great March November 18 1999 (0)