Stoller:
Government---or business, little difference---IS force, the force of one set of property relations upon another.Don: The difference is substantial. The buisness down the street isn't going to have some sturmtruppen break in my door. The government might. I don't have to buy what the buisness sells or give them money if I don't want their product. Not so with the government.
Only conspicuous control is bad? Covert control is OK?
Stoller:
To advocate a society where there exists no government is to advocate a classless society.
Don: I see no reason why a class system would not exist in the absense of government.
That's a triple negative there, Don; it's a bit unclear what you're saying...
But if you ARE saying that a class system would exist WITHOUT government, you have nothing but arid theories to back you up.
Squatters would not be 'dealt with'?
Or do you support the feudal notion that 'protection' should be private?
Exxon would not like THAT one bit.
See this post, then this one.
Stoller:
According to your idealistic thinking, America should still be inhabited by the Native Americans and Mexicans.
Don:
We can't give the land our forefathers took from the indians back. It's not a practical idea...
Ah, shucks!
