First off, Hitler was not a vegetarian. Now that we've disposed of that myth, let's deal with the rest of your nasty, inane comments.: First of all, let me say that I do not condone harm to the environment, nor do I condone slave labor. There was a message posted on this server by a young lady who said we should protest McDonald's because, "it's fun, and it works!" She said "it's fun," thus revealing the true and essential spirit of ninety-nine percent of the "save the world" crusaders. Most of these crusaders are highly disorganized, egocentric [blah blah blah]
As a matter of fact, activism can be fun. Getting together with like-minded people to protest a powerful enemy is itself empowering, and there's no reason for a protest to be a dour, joyless occasion. In fact, street theater, which is an effective form of protest, often involves humor. As long as the goals of the protest remain serious, I say, enjoy speaking out for the cause. Have you a problem with people enjoying themselves?
: As for the second of this lady's remarks, "it works," I would bring to your attention that you who accept this are deluding yourselves and making a laughing-stock of yourselves. Do you really think that holding hands and painting protest signs, and yelling and screaming about things you have no knowledge of will bring down a multi-national company with holdings in the hundreds of billions? Do you think McDonald's really cares what you think? Do you think the Central Comittee in Beijing cared about the hurt feelings of the students who stood in front of Red Army tanks?
I suppose you think that sitting around and doing nothing is the way to change things. Sorry, but time and again history has shown that protests -- marching, waving signs, etc. -- are effective and necessary instruments of social change (or do you think Dr. King was wrong to march down the streets of Selma? After all, those tactics "only" resulted in revolutionary and expansive civil rights legislation). Protest may not be as effective in dictatorships, but then again, tell that to Lech Walesa and the old Soviet bureaucrats who now wonder what went wrong.
: Now, let's be fair. I am not for one second suggesting that you have no right to do what you are doing, because people with a sense of responsibility died to get you those rights. You know, those veterans that your kind spat on
Please. Very few vets were really spat on. And don't forget the vets who, upon returning to the United States, joined in the anti-war demonstrations. What reactionary rock did you crawl out from under?
:when they returned from Viet Nam and WWII? Yes, those men.
Oh really? I had no idea World War II vets were scorned upon returning home. I guess all those ticker-tape parades distracted the masses from the otherwise horrendous treatment of these well-honored veterans.
[Blah blah blah reacationary rubbish. You're a cliche, you know that?]
: Look at Mohandas K. Gandhi...Do you know why his movement worked? Not because he had an attitude problem, or a problem with authority. He was a lawyer, kiddies. He told India, "If we are to have independence, we must prove WORTHY of it." In other words, you don't get a platform just because you say you should have one, then give up the cause when the world doesn't fold for you. You get a platform when your opponents consider you to be at least their intellectual equals. In other words, you will have to behave like professionals with half a brain. Lenin understood this. He knew that the change he sought to create in Russia would not come about through the protests of angry workers, but through the labors of a small, elite corps of DISCIPLINED radicals. They key word here is "DISCIPLINE." Look it up in the dictionary, friends, that is, if there are any left after you burn down the paper factories.
LOL. You really love to engage in caricatures. Must make thinking easier for you. Gandhi was indeed a lawyer, and he led sign-waving marches in the streets against the British authorities. He was, in fact, the kind of activist you're so ignorantly insulting right now.
: Face the facts, kiddies
Gee Dad, we'll try.
:, you are not going to change anything by being a pest. Nor are you going to bring down 2000 years of western civilization with a sit-in. Given a choice between cutting down some tress and leaving starving people without jobs, I say give me an axe. If protesting McDonald's involved not getting attention, none of you would do it.
Of course, the choice isn't between environmental protection and jobs. Both can be achieved. What you just regurgitated is the bullshit propanda of industry and a line swallowed by authoritarian reactionaries like yourself.
: Now I know I will be attacked.
Hmmm. Maybe you're a masochist.
:I will not respond. Why? That's a strategy I learned from Gandhi.
Did you learn to be an insulting creep from Gandhi too?
:You will call me "pig" or "fascist" or tell me to "grow up." I will not respond to remarks like that. Because I get shivers down my spine at the mere thought of showing these false crusaders for the sham they are.
Whatever floats your boat, chump. Just don't complain when people take issue with being called foolish little children by a self-righteous reactionary like yourself.
