::: Qx: So you decide to answer it with a holier-than-thou approach by trying to use shame as a weapon?. Really Stu...your response to Frode's initial posting is just too hysterical. I was reacting to overblown exaggerated rhetoric. Tell me I got that
part wrong Q. Shame is quite appropriate to those who create huge
monsters (USA: mother of terrorism) to slay for their cause. The USA
is a great deal more than the alleged criminal actions of its baser
members.
: Stu:I take great umbrage with those who who sloganeer with such snipets as "The terror on the big level is performed by polite and correct gentlemen in suit, attach case and credit card. The terror the rich upper classperform: against the poor majority on this planet is the biggest genocide ever committed".
::: Qx: Well, at least he's backing ot up and here's some more back up.Can you go word for word on this with anybody else here? C'mon Stu...give it a try.
Which part? Pick your favorite for comment.
::: Qx: Like the evils of Calvinism and the theological gymnastics used to defend the indefensible? Take the case of South Africa for example. The Dutch Reformed Church is little more than a joke and it isn't secular humanism that did it in.
I defend nothing here except for the hoards of capitalists that are
indicted by Frode's initial post that have nothing to do with this.
This isn't so difficult is it? Incidently, I'm not a Calvinist, nor am
I a member of the Dutch Reformed Church. I was born into the Dutch
Christian Reformed Church (entirely seperate from the DRC) and I attend
a Baptist chuch today. Can we dispense with the constant references
to these things since you inferred them incorrectly?
: Stu: Perhaps I'm wrong and you are the one who has the world saving plan. Well, let's hear it Frode. Try using the calmer approach as
: demonstrated in your second post. I'm far more likely to concentrate
: if I don't have the distraction of defending myself against charges of
: being a terrorist.
::: Qx: How about charges of promoting a profoundly passive existence by thinking Jesus will pick up all the pieces when he lands in Jerusalem to end Armageddon? Not bloody likely to happen but it makes for great comedy while the world is coaxed into apathy by the present consumer lifestyle packaged as the American Dream. All the while corporate ideologues preach about the glories of globalization while the majority of the planet's population races to the bottom.
Sounds like your just about ready to suggest that all authority
should reside in the one who has the right answer. The question is;
who is that person and what is that answer? If globalization scares
you as it does me then who will combat it? The powers which are
creating this massive movement are huge and it will take an awful lot
of authority to combat them. There is no question that power is being
centralized as we speak (are you surprised that I believe that?). It
has to be before any one man can wield it. The anti-christ who is
spoken of in Revelation and referred to in Daniel will be given all
earthly authority from world leaders. If we fear the same thing for
different reasons our solutuions for the problem are going to be just
as different. I trust God to fix things that man messes up - not man.
That's why I asked Frode to give us his solution. I suspect his
solution is some form of collectivism which has already been tried
several different ways and failed. All man made solutions will fail.
But stay optimistic Quincunx. I could be wrong and that special
someone with that special idea might be right around the corner.
Stuart Gort
