: You cannot understand salvation because human beings lack the communication skills to describe it.And, you was not entirely honest about about trying to attain yourself...where you?HONESTY AND PURITY are absolute REQUIREMENTS in any strugle.DDN: Well Gabriel, you've just set us back an entire year on this discussion of 'salvation'. According to every other Christian on this
forum (except YOU), we don't need to be PURE to find Jesus or attain salvation. The whole reason for finding Jesus and getting saved in
the first place is so that Jesus can MAKE us pure. This point was communicated VERY CLEARLY by Kristin. Its one of the few tenets of christianity I've been able to understand. But now you are completely refuting it by saying that "PURITY" is not only NECESSARY to attain "salvation" but it is an "ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT". Great. Sounds to me like you and Kristin need to communicate with EACH OTHER more than you need to communincate to ME.
So, on that note, let me ask you: What is "salvation"? If its not the
attainment of purity, then what is it?
Gabriel: And what is LIFE if it's not "STRUGLE?" To understand anything,you must be able to believe the one who is explaining. Who do you believe is trying to tell you something in the bible?Man? Profit?How about GOD... or whom ever you wish to call him.
DDN: That's funny, I've always assumed that Kristin (the entity here that's been trying to explain the contents of the bible to me for the last year and a half) was a WOMAN and now you're telling me that she is God Almighty HIMSELF!? Well....okay.....its a little hard to swallow, but hey, if it true, then we have a rare opportunity here
to talk to god and find out exactly what the deal is with salvation.
Is the attainment od salvation a "struggle" as you have asserted, Gabriel? Let's ask GOD (Kristin). Kristin......(GOD)....has told me in no uncertain terms that there is NOTHING I can do to get saved i.e. that salvation does not come through our works. So how can salvation be a struggle if it does not require me to do anything?
So let's see what we've learned here today:
1) Purity is necessary for attaining salvation
2) Kristin is God
3) Salvation is attained only through a lifetime struggle
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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