: : : Oh and all religions are metaphysical? I think it's buddism and hinduism, definitely Taoism, which are religions which dont believe in the after life, in the case of Toaism they dont believe in spirituality in the sense of the paranormal at all.You're wrong here lark. Hinduism believes very strongly in the existence of teh afterlife. Specifically they believe in reincarnation, i.e. that the soul is associated with different bodies, and that your actions, temperaments and spiritual development in thsi life control where you find yourself in the next. Specifically, whatever you wish for at the time fo death taht woish will be granted. If your last thoughts are violent, as would be likely if you have led a violent life, you will be reborn as a violent person. If your last thoughts are base and concenrned iwth sensual desire, you may be reborn as a n animal. Etcetra. Buddhism, accepts essentially the same idea of reincrnation, except that 9at leats the most orthodox sects) do not accept that the soul is eternal and immortal. This is in comparison with Hinduism.
: : :The way modern athiests prolestise etc. is akin to any evangelist, take the fact that in and of itself athieism doesnt actually exist, the most prominant magazines etc. I've read all santer about religion particulary, in western fashion, christianity, but is a reaction to something it's very like any other "Faith".
: : The problem we have here lark is we lack an objective definition of 'religion'.
: A problem for who?
: : Things such as Buddism and Taosim are all concerned to an extent with the meaning of life, whereas atheism posits no such thing. It does not provide a specific mantra to live by, a design for life.
: In its humanist variants it does actually.
likewise Marxism.
: : : You cant prove the existance of a deity but then you cant disprove it either each requires a leap of faith at some stage.
: : What's the basis for your leap of faith? Personal experience? How reliable is that? Historical data? How reliable or convincing is that?
This is ridiculous! personal experinec is the mnost convincing thing there can possibly be! What could be mroe convincing? Why do you believe taht electrons are negatively charged? Because a whole bunch of scientsits PERSONALLY OBSERVED it. Their personal experinec is merely serving, in thsi case, as a stand in for your own. When it comes down to it, teh only things we can KNOW for sure is what we have perosnally ex;pperienced, the rest is all inference. As such, personal experince is the ebst guide to truth tehre is. I suspect teh speaker is one of those people who would disbelieve in God even if God came and spoke to him, and would convince himslef till the end that he was being duped.
: I cant see your angle on this, I was rationalising with an athiest about the existance of God, now I dont think you are that athiest, what do you want?
