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Posted by: Nikhil Jaikumar ( DSA, MA, USA ) on October 25, 1999 at 11:14:43:

In Reply to: What the #%@!? posted by Kevin Dempsey on October 25, 1999 at 01:08:03:


: Listen to what you are saying... "the price we have to pay..." That is absolutely the most SELF-CENTERED denial of any situation I have ever heard... Completely ignoring the fact that species extinction affects the entire planet for a minute, what gives you the arrogance and audacity to say you are the one paying a price?

Because we are the ones making the decision. Unless you know exactly what God wants, though? I don't claim to, though some Protestant Fundamentalist people around here might claim the opposite...

: That is about as intelligent an argument as saying, "If the death of a few people in Belgrade is the price WE have to pay to stop Milosevic, then okay" or "If the death of a few black slaves is the price WE have to pay to make our lives easier, so be it."

No, because the situations aren't analougous. Whales are not humans. Simple as that. Now, i am not going to say that whales are inferior to humans in some sort of cosmic, objective sense. God knows whal;es are supposed to be pretty smart, empathetic, and all the rest of it. But from our subjective point of view, we are humans, and tehrefore human life ought to mean more to su than whale life. Humans are superior only from our subjective poiint of view. But still, we have a duty to our species first.

The analogy between racism and speciesism topples over because races are not scintifically valid constructs, while species are. You can mate with a woman from sweden, guatemala, Zimbabwe, India, or korea. Therefore you are all the same species. You cannot mate with a whale. tehrefore you're different species. QED.


: Give me a break. Who made you god over the right whales, to decide what their fate should be?

to quote the Grand Inquisitor, 'The Devil made me lord over the whales, about eight centuries ago." (j/k)




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