: :I think your being a bit smug for some reason. Actually most decent, non-evangelist, Christians have nothing to prove then either, what do you want me to prove the existance of God to you for anyway?: One of my freinds has postulated that you beleive me to be kind of sarcastic. I am most serious about this subject. From a scientific point of view, I can not ask you to prove anything. It would be wrong for me to ask any one to prove to me that something does not exist. I don't want you to prove anything. You don't have to, your position is backed up by the availible evidence.
: :So I'll not see atheism lauded as anything other than an alternative faith to Christianity anymore, since Truth being Scientific is agnostic.
: I have heard it said that atheism is a type of religion because it is based on a belief. A belief that can not be backed up by the evidence. The only Scientific stand you can take is that of agnosticism. In the first there is a beleife that God does not exist but in the second there is a theory that God does not exist pending new evidence. So you are right, atheism is lauded as an alternative to the Christian faith. It is as much a faith as Christianity.
: :There is heaps of evidence (for God) but I'm still waiting for concrete evidence that all this is false because to prove non-existance you muct refute all these and, infact, all paranormal phenomena.
: There is no concrete evidence one way or the other. The artifacts you mentioned are all man made, half of them are either mythical or have been proved to be false. There is no reason that any one from a strick scientific position should beleive in the exsistance of a God. All scientists should be agnostic.
Atheists and agnotics do not have to prove any thing. Only those people who beleive can argue, the atheists only has to say, "there is no evedence, therefore God doesn't exsist." And athiests are entitled to that belief if they wish, but can they really be scientific when holding this belief? Or maybe we should try a new type of science, one not based on the scientific method. We need a paradigm of sorts in our scoiety. We can only go so far before there is no where to go any more. We have reached a wall. We tell our children they are nothing more than animals and then they go out and kill their classmates.
Hobbes said that we as a human race have no capasity for rational thought. He saw us as nothing more than resus monkies on crack. Only beings concerned with what suits us at the moment, controled by emotion and animal urges. But it is REASON that alows us to decide between right an wrong. It is the scientific world that has told us there is no soul, no spirit. Acording to Plato, the Greek philosipher, there is something that is a part of a living man that makes him diffrent from a dead man. He called it the Psyche. And part of the Psyche is the part of us that decides what urges are right and what are wrong. This is reason, and from a purely scientific worldview these things do not exist, in fact we must all be animals. I hope I have shone that there are major flaws in the current scientific method.
But useing today's science, it would be imposible for me to ask any one to prove something does not exist.
