Good point Stuart, but I'll give it shot at answering in any case...
: Actually, I posted the first message in the wrong part of this thread. But arguing the white Christ issue, I shall note that regardless of whether or not the immaculate conception is fact, the geneology is accepted by men far more scholarly than your average believer.
OK, But I'm still a bit skeptical that the ancestry of joseph can be accurately traced for 42 generations. i can't trace my ancestry back 42 generations, can you. Is it likely that an ordinary carpenter of the first century could have done so? Anyway i don't pretend to know the truth about this. i'll assume for the time being that the genealogy is valid.
:If Christ was Hebrew, Christ was white.
Erm? That woudl come as a surprise to generations of Europeans who regarded middle-easterners (Jews, arabs, etc.) as a separate race from teh Europeans. The Hebrews were brown, as Deep Daddio said. The Falasha Jews of Ethiopia claim to be a part of teh 12 Tribes of israel, and they're certainly black. teh Israeli Government has honored their claim by airlifting them all to Israel. But this is really foolish on my part. i'm buying into this whole ridiculous terminology of "white", "black", etc. The scientific consensus is that 1) race has no biological meaning, and 2) skin color is a particularly absurd claim for drawing distinctions, since it tells us precsiely nothing about teh relatedness of different human groupings.
: Let Nikhil answer that. To hold a different opinion one must suggest that God conceived a different colored Jesus to come out of a purely Hebrew woman who was married to a purely Hebrew man.
Well, according to the Hindus, Krishna (the eight incarnation of God) was blue-skinned, and he was born presumably of brown-skinned people.
:Unless you also wish to suggest that Mary was not Hebrew - which would require proof. Logic and history would suggest that interracial couples didn't fare well in those days.
Well, in fact Solomon, a "white" Hebrew according to your definition, had a relationship with the black Queen of shebam which gave rise to the Solomonic Dynasty of Ethiopia.
: Now the only reason I would address this stupid subject at all is to
: point out how again how men would attempt to subjugate God to their interests and reduce Him to manifesting Himself to mankind in their particular color so as to affirm their sensitive egos. You see people, if God exists, it is the height of arrogance and foolishness to attempt to use Him for your purposes. If He doesn't exist, this particular issue is moot and everything else discussed on this board just jumped up a few rungs on the ladder of import.
: Stuart Gort
Incidentally, according to St. John of Patmos, God is not white nor black, but GREEN. 'And HE that sat thereon was to look upon like a jasper and a sardius stone....' (Revelation 4:3)
2 questions, Stuart. firstly, what do you mean by 'If God exists"? Let's say that there exists a being that corresponds to the Hindu view of God, but not very closely to the fundamentalist Christian one. would you then say 'Yes, God exists, but He's different from how I thought?' secondly, do you LITERALLY believe that evreything in the Bible is true as written? What about when Leviticus sanctions slavery?
