Stuart Gort (from a previous thread):The words which were used to establish our nation were noble and pure without argument. Is there hypocracy and failure to live up to those words everywhere on this planet? Of course there is! Does that hypocracy attack the credibility of our system. Of course it does! Argue to that failure if you must but allow that there are men who die nobly. Please allow that there are those who see and know what is happening in this world more than you or I and that perhaps, just perhaps they are motivated by their responsibility to oath and honor.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
DDN: Actually, I don't see any hypocracy here at all. These words were written by rich white guys FOR rich white guys and have since been carried out to protect the "Safety and Happiness" and "secure the rights" of rich white guys at everyone elses expense. A black man wasn't really a "man" but only 3/4 of a man, a native american was a savage, and if you, as a white male, weren't a wealthy land owner your ability to participate or influence the government discussed above was negligeable if not nonexistent without the use of force. And forget about women - no mention of them at all here. This was the intended design and U.S. government today reflects this design pretty accurately as far as I'm concerned. So, no, I don't find these words to be particularly noble considering the context and, no, there's very little hypocracy here.
