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HCI was using newspaper clippings and gun traces

Posted by: DonS ( USA ) on July 28, 1999 at 12:30:15:

In Reply to: If you just dismiss the other side's points, then why debate at all? posted by Floyd on July 26, 1999 at 17:14:54:

: : : Admitedly, VPC, Amnesty, and handgun Control are also biased, but their data can't be ignored.

: : Don: In fact, it can be ignored. They have no facts of value.

: Well, the purpose of debate is to offer contradicting points of view and evaluate their relative merit. If you just reject all points other than your own as lacking in value, the whole conversation falls apart. I'm not, even for a second, suggesting that you change your mind, since you obviously have a deep emotional commitment to firearms. The point I was making is that other people with alternative views have raised issues that must be addressed if you want your argument to be persuasive. To simply say that your opponents lack any valuable facts and then ignore their critiques isn't a very convincing argument, IMHO.

Don: Not long ago I read a short clip that said HCI was fined by a court in California for wasting the court's time with "junk" data. This was in the current challange to the California assault weapons ban. I believe HCI was using newspaper clippings and gun traces in an attempt to show that assault weapons are more likely to be used in crime. Of course, neither newspaper clippings nor traces can be used for statistical purposes such as this.


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