: Really? God told me to shag anything that moved. I guess he must have something against you, dude.
How did he tell you that? Did he appear to you in a dream? Did you dial a wrong number once and called God by mistake and strike up a conversation with Him?
: (Seriously, though; do you have any evidence that yours is the One True God? (_other_ than the Bible, of course...))
Archaeologists to this day find remains and evidence that the stuff in the Bible talks about, so the bible must be right. Besides, the reason why its in the bible is because it was written by people who witnessed what was going on.
: : Why? Because he loves us and he knows what will happen to us if we do wrong. He knows that if we give in to temptation and sin sexually, we are going to hurt ourselves.
: Ooo! You screwed! You're going straight to Hell...
: Well, if Heaven involves eternity in the company of bigots, masochists, windbags and crusaders, give me horns and a tail, I'm on my way.
When I said "hut ourselves" I wasn't talking about the afterlife, I was talking about this life. By participating in those activities you could hurt yourself by getting a disease, breaking up your family etc...It happens all the time when people sin sexually. None of those people in heaven. The people in heaven are regular people like you and me (we aer sinners too)who have asked Jesus for forgiveness of sins and who believe in him as Lord. Hell, however, is full of murderers, drug addicts, child molesters, racists, hateful people etc... all of whom were never forgiven because they never asked for forgiveness! They all could have went to heaven but chose not to. It is so simple. Jesus don't care who you are or what you did. He wants to give you eternal life in paradise, all you have to do is confess your sins to him and believe in Him as Lord and God of the universe! Then you will have the desire to quit living in sin.
: : Do you want to contract any STD such as aids? Of course you don't.
: Well, that rules out blood tranfusions, organ transplants, going anywhere near a hospital, well, exposure to non-sterile environments of any sort really. Contamination happens. Deal with it, rather than just walling yourself up and trying to pretend that the problems the rest of the world suffers aren't yours; because you're far too holy to ever catch a cold.
Blood transfusions and organ transplants are almost 100% safe. There is only a small chance of getting a disease in that process, compared to sleeping with people you aren't married to (or hardly know, or both). Besides, with organ transplants and blood transfusions, you have a chance of living (because you are dying anyway if you need a transplant)So the small risk of getting sick during such operations pales when compared to the possibility of getting a new chance of life. Sexual sin, on the other hand, you have nothing to gain by, so why risk getting sick or dying?
: : After all, HIV started in the gay community.
: Absolute bollocks. It started in monkeys in Africa, mutated into a number of different strains one of which is usually passed via lesions caused by homosexual contact.
OK sorry-The virus that monkeys carried for years was passed on to gay humans, who then passed it to straight humans. It is still much more rampant in th gay community. It is also all too common in poor African and Asian cities where the majority of the women are hookers(more sexual sin)
: : If you ignore God's word and decide you like having extra-marital affairs, or you like being gay, then don't come crying to me when the doctor tells you you have some kind of disease.
: "some kind of disease"? Thrush? Chlamydia? Herpes? Syphilis? NSU? Scabies?
: (hint: you can get all of the above without any kind of sexual contact at all; yet they are commonly labelled as "sexually transmitted diseases" in the popular parlance.)
: : You know the consequences of your actions and you are taking a big risk and your life is at stake.
: That's perfectly true. Three quarters of gay men are likely to suffer from homophobic violence at some point in their life; beaten up by all those nice "normal" guys who are so screwed up themselves that they can't just live and let live. Heck, given the near-certainty of broken bones, AIDS isn't an everyday problem.
I don't support any violence at all, so yes, the straight people who beat up the gay people are sinning even more than the gay people themselves
: : Finally, and I've said this 100 times before, I don't care if your gay or not, I wouldn't treat you any differently. After all its your life, however homosexuality is not the norm nor is it right
: In your opinion.
: A challenge; give me three reasons the homosexuality is wrong.
: Here's the catch; they have to be reasons that have nothing to do with Christianity.
1) Homosexuality increases your chances by a million of getting a deadly disease.
2)Nature made men born with certain parts and women born with certain parts so they work together,thats why there are men and women, and not just one sex
3)Those are the main reasons that have nothing to do with Christianity
: : and so gay people should not be so open about it in front of regular people. If your gay, fine, just say your gay and leave it at that. You don't need to be marching in parades down 5th Ave every March 17 and you don't need to be "coming out" on TV.
: Do you live in a country in which gays are seen as Good As You; a country in which people really are treated as equals, regardless of their preference?
Unfortunately, no. I wish everyone was treated the same, regardless of what your sins are. I'm a sinner and so are you. I treat everybody with respect and love. You really don't know me. I know gay people personally. I don't think anyless of them as a person.
: If not, there is a need for recognition that other groups exist and that they are not afraid to stand up and be counted.
Yeah but stop talking about homosexuals like they are some different group from you and me. They are not some special group, they are just people who the only thing they have in common is that they are making a bad decision.
: Until gays are treated equally, there can be no "live and let live"; how many times can they turn the other cheek as more are beaten and murdered?
: Why should they shut up and be cowed in the name of polite sensibilities, when the "polite" folks are giving their tacit approval to the continuing murders? When the police treat them as second-class citizens? When religious bigots and homophobic media call for their mass murder?
Oh and for the record, anyone who beats homosexuals or even treat them as second class citizens (I do neither) is not a Christian.
