: Excuse me but while it's allowed we all generally try to voluntarily exclude demented rambling in here, that's all a load of bollocks about us all deserving hell, I for one dont deserve to go to fucking hell,Lark, your a Christian, right? In the Bible it says "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"(Romans 3:23) "All" includes you and I. Do you mean to tell me that in your whole life, you have never once sinned or did something wrong? Come on. Anyone who says they have never sinned is a liar (thats in the Bible too) So I think we've established that you are a sinner, just like everyone else. Now let's see what happens to sinners. "The wages of sin is death"(Romans6:23) By "death" it means eternal damnation. The only way to avoid going to hell is by believing Jesus as Savior. It's all in the bible
: and Jesus paid the price for defying the institutional and religious establishment first and foremost.
He paid the price for all our sins. A sin is a sin. Not believing in Jesus as Lord is a sin, in fact it is the greatest sin.
: :I don't think Jesus is "just another man". Can "just another man" like you or me cure dying people, bring sight to the blind, and cause the parylized(sp?)
: He might not have been just another man but what if he was?
Well if Jesus was just another man than we are all in trouble.
:Does the whole message have no legitimacy without a whole other worldly, fall on your knees before the all powerful tyrant type of nonsense? I really hate that definition of God, damnit, it validates authority and justifies atheism.
God created us and has provided us a way to escape eternal torture, I think that is worthy of praise. At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is Lord.
: :people to walk again simply by touching them? Jesus did all that. Can just another man come back to life three days he was killed? He's not just another man, he is God, and he loves you.
: OK you appear to have ignores just about all the real good things he done,
No I didn't. He created us and wants to save us(if only you'd let him).He is providing us eternal life! I think that is good.
:Jesus would have hated your version of a follower, the guy who turns up for the miracles and gets all bewildered and spiritualised.
I don't follow him just because he performed miracles. He performed miracles to prove to us who he is. I follow him because He loved me so much he WENT TO THE CROSS TO SAVE ME FROM HELL! And you too! Our sins put him there. That's how much he loves you and me, that even though we are sinners he is providing a way for us to live eternally in heaven.