1. It is wrong to eat meat.
2. Humans are not superior to animals.
3. Homosexuality is not wrong.:: Speaking for me personally, I believe the last two, if not the first. My choice to refrain from using animal products is based on my belief that animals are not here to exploit, that they are not a resource, that a privileged few cause hunger, injustice, and environmental degradation which could be avoided if we all ate lower on the food chain. I believe that the preparing and eating of food is sacred,
Sacred, eh? Well I shouldn't wonder. If you mean to establish your own independent moral code it's no wonder you worship very odd things.
:: and that while it is possible to lose sight of the source of our food and its interconnectedness even when eating vegetarian, this dissociation is enshrined in our meat culture.
I disagree totally! When you open a package of meat blood comes out. I know it. My wife and kids know it. I think everybody knows it Kevin. I believe psuedo intellectuals discuss such things as interconnectedness and dissociation to keep their fertilized minds entrenched in dogma. Children who can tell me where meat comes from?
:: In short, eating meat is not wrong.
That wasn't your viewpoint a while ago but thanks for that. It's all I ever wanted to hear you say 100 posts back.
:: "higher" order consumers are NECESSARILY fewer in number, since there is a finite amount of energy in a food chain. If you chase down a lame gazelle and make a meal of it, more power to you. You are ill-equipped (sans rifle) to do so for a reason: humans need not eat as much meat as they do, if any at all.
Plenty of historical and contemporaneous cultures had to exist almost soley on meat. We can manipulate the food chain because of our superiority to animals. We are not fully bound by nature's tyranny else we wouldn't have set foot on the moon or cured polio. I'm not about to take my place in your idealistic version of reality.
: How many of you:
: 1) believe that humans are superior to other species?
Define the word or stop using it. You can't win this one Kevin. A cheeta can outrun me but he gets creamed at Indy.
: 2) believe homosexuality is a sin?
Define sin or don't use it. Biblical sin, which includes practicing homosexuality, seperates us from God. Homosexuality is only one manifestation of this. Idolotry (the worship of anything not God) is another.
: 3) preach to fellow posters that their salvation lies in Jesus?
Salvation lies in the fact that I cannot attain to heaven or God. Jesus is God coming here to fix this problem for me. This love is not exclusive to me Kevin.
: 4) believe that environmentalists smoke pot, and that it is wrong to do so?
I never said this. I believe a large portion of them do. I did every day for many years of my early adulthood. God forbid I should judge that wasted portion of my life as morally wrong. God forbid I should suggest that pot can sap motivation and render one useless to society. God forbid I might suggest that nasty crap like angel dust, lsd, crystal meth, opium, and every pill known to man are easier to contemplate using after one has begun experimenting with pot.
Don't you dare tell me that there ought to be some morality which is inclusive of pot smoking. I have plenty of dead friends who know better.
:: Speaking of preferred morality Stuart, take a look at the exclusiveness of your own doctrine.
Actually, after having sparred with you enough to evaluate your word non-defining strategy I retract my orginal statement and offer you this:
Why must we substitute the ideology of the left for time honored morality?
If you won't use words like sin and can't define words like superiority, you have no morality at all.
Stuart Gort
