Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 38
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2 Q. Where were myself and Mr. Gravett at that time?
3 A. I did not see Mr. Gravett, you were holding, as
4 I looked at you, the right-hand of one of the banners, the
5 right-hand post of one of the banners. You were
6 immediately in front of the window, and quite close to the
7 wall outside the window.
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9 Q. Was the cow in sight?
10 A. No, I would say that was not there at that time,
11 because it was so obvious I would have noticed it.
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13 Q. When you were there with this Special Branch officer, you
14 did not still have the photograph that you had been given
15 four weeks previously?
16 A. I was not given a photograph, I was shown a photograph.
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18 Q. Right. So on this occasion the ARNI officer pointed me
19 out?
20 A. Yes.
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22 Q. Was I facing you or...
23 A. No, no, most of the time your back was towards me but
24 you turned sideways, you had conversation with other
25 people. There was a large group standing around there.
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27 Q. On all sides?
28 A. Yes, I am pretty sure. No, there was no-one on your
29 left. The next person on your left had the other side of
30 the banner. You were quite close to the wall, but there
31 were people on your right.
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33 Q. Right. Then what happened after that?
34 A. Well, I had to go back upstairs to my office, and about
35 15 minutes later, something like that, I came back down.
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37 Q. To where; to that room?
38 A. Same place.
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40 Q. What did you see then?
41 A. You were still holding the banner. Well, sorry, you
42 were holding the banner, I do not though whether you
43 continued all the time because I was not there. But you
44 were holding the banner and there was some kind of
45 performance going on on the pavement, the cow was there.
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47 Q. Right.
48 A. And the ARNI officer told me that Gravett was in the
49 cow costume.
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51 Q. Was that all you saw on that occasion?
52 A. Well, I came out of the office. I only stood there for
53 a minute, no more than that. I came out of the office and
54 stood on the verandah, in the open, and I had a look round
55 just to make sure that the picture was more or less the
56 same.
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58 Q. You mean that is the outside balcony bit you talked about?
59 A. Yes, it is, yes.
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