Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 31

     
     1        they just say what happened on a particular day?
     2        A.  That is it.
     3
     4   Q.   What I want to know is whether they did refer to all the
     5        ----
     6        A.  No, they did not.
     7
     8   Q.   And, secondly, in any event, whether you did any kind of
     9        collation to work out how many were there.  Can you help me
    10        on that?
    11        A.  Yes, I can.  The reports on occasions did refer to
    12        agent 'A' or agent 'B' or agent 'C', but generally it was
    13        just a report of what an agent had seen -- no
    14        identification, no numbers, nothing.  And then we got one
    15        report from one agent, from one company, and later on
    16        another occasion we get the report from the other company.
    17        I really did not sit down at that time and say, right,
    18        there were two agents on this night and this date, that was
    19        done later.
    20
    MR. MORRIS:  So are you saying you got information about what
    22        London Greenpeace were doing but you did not really know
    23        the extent of the agents' activities?
    24        A.  I got sufficient information, it was prepared by the
    25        director of the firm.
    26
    27   Q.   So the firm's directors only told you what they considered
    28        would be sufficient to keep you happy as the client?
    29        A.  No.
    30
    31   Q.   Paying the money?
    32        A.  No, of course not.
    33
    34   Q.   They were not informed about large amounts of letters being
    35        taken, that you have seen, you were not informed about the
    36        influence that a number of agents might be having because
    37        of their numbers?
    38        A.  No, because the directors of the company would know
    39        how.  They did not know about the other agency.
    40
    Q.   You never issued any instructions regarding the numbers of
    42        agents that should attend or should not?
    43        A.  No, I have been clear in my statement, I advised to
    44        them they could use as many agents as they wanted to effect
    45        the objective, to attain the objective.  I left that
    46        entirely to the directors of the companies.
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:   Just check one final thing.  You got information on
    49        what was going on in the group?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   But you did not get information about whether or not the 
    53        individual incidents going on in the group were carried out
    54        by other agents that were employed by you.  For example, if
    55        some leaflets were handed out at a meeting you did not get
    56        information about whether or not that was another one of
    57        your agents that were handing out leaflets?
    58        A.  The majority of times the reports, when they are
    59        talking about handing out leaflets, named people.  You were
    60        all named.