Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 25

     
     1        almost certainly identical to the ones that
     2        London Greenpeace issued.  The ones that I got from Canada
     3        were, I believe, identical.  The ones from Australia were
     4        variations.  They contained the cartoon, some of the text,
     5        some of the 'Mc', the golden arch and the McGarbage,
     6        McProfits.  By then I had received many, many and, of
     7        course, from all round this country.
     8
     9   Q.   Right.  You gave all those to the solicitors did you?
    10        A.  Eventually.
    11
    12   Q.   So, they should all be in the publication bundles that have
    13        been disclosed?
    14        A.  Well, if they were all retained, yes.  I know a lot...
    15        Some were sent over to different countries.  They made
    16        inquiries, 'what is this leaflet all about', and we sent
    17        them out.  We sent some to the Head Office at Oakbrook, but
    18        the majority would end up with solicitors.
    19
    20   Q.   Just going back to the 1987 picket, do you remember this
         clearly?
    22        A.  Yes.
    23
    24   Q.   Were there people...  Can you describe what leaflets people
    25        were handing out, how many were handed out?
    26        A.  There was two, maybe three people -- or drifting from 2
    27        to 3 -- outside the Head Office.  There was always one
    28        outside the underground station and there was one across
    29        the road in the vicinity of Augustus Barnet, which is one
    30        of the shops opposite.  This was the leaflet that was being
    31        handed out, the one complained of, of which I obtained
    32        one.  But, to me, the picket was a damp squib.  I arranged
    33        for police coverage of an inspector, sergeant and 6 police
    34        constables and after about 15 minutes of the demonstration
    35        starting, which was about quarter past 4, the inspector
    36        reduced it to 2 PCs.
    37
    38   Q.   Did there appear to be any reason why the picket was so
    39        small, or a damp squib, or whatever you want to call it?
    40        A.  I do not know.
    41
    42   Q.   You could not see any apparent reason?
    43        A.  No, it just...  I had been in the public order
    44        department and attended literally hundreds of
    45        demonstrations and pickets, and by any standard this was a
    46        very small affair.  Bearing in mind that I had nothing on
    47        which to work before the demonstration took place, I did
    48        not know what to expect.
    49
    50   Q.   You have got that absolutely crystal clear in your mind 
    51        have you? 
    52        A.  Yes, very much so. 
    53
    54   Q.   Followed the same plan as all the other years -- in the day
    55        people handing out leaflets to people coming home from work
    56        and leaving McDonald's?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   What about?
    60        A.  What do you mean 'leaving McDonald's'?