Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 23
1 Q. You had responsibility for liaising with the solicitors?
2 A. Yes, it remained very much in my pocket.
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4 Q. But despite that, you did not attend the pickets?
5 A. No.
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7 Q. This mistake that you say was in your statement when the
8 proof of evidence was taken, did you not give any details
9 before that?
10 A. Yes, I was interviewed by Mrs. Brinley-Codd, I believe
11 the day following the '89 demonstrations, and that is when
12 I handed her the copy of the pamphlet I had been given and,
13 I mean, we discussed what had taken place, we discussed
14 what I had seen but there was no prove of evidence taken.
15 We had not... We had issued writ...
16 No, no, sorry. I am getting the years mixed up. '89 we had
17 not any notion then of going to court, we were starting, or
18 we were mounting, an observation on your group, but
19 acquiring evidence, building up evidence, had not even
20 entered our minds at that time.
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22 Q. So although you discussed the matter with Mrs Brinley-Codd
23 and gave her the leaflets, you did not go into great detail
24 about what went on, or anything like that, in 1989?
25 A. I would tell her what I had done and what I had seen.
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27 Q. And how was it, in that case, that when the proof was done
28 in 1990 this part was got wrong?
29 A. Well, the only explanation I can offer is that I had
30 said 'for the past 3 years', and it had been 1991 and we
31 were about '87, it went back '87, there were certainly no
32 demonstrations to my knowledge in '86 or '85.
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34 Q. There was no demonstration in '87 or '88 was there either?
35 A. Yes, '87 was the first one. I attended that one. It
36 was advertised 4 till 6, I believe. I got there at about
37 quarter to 4 along with an inspector, a sergeant and 6
38 constables, and until 4 o'clock we were the only people
39 there. The next thing I noticed was a young lad standing
40 fairly closely to me with a haversack on his back and
41 sticking out of the top of the haversack were 3 highly
42 coloured Indian clubs.
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44 Q. This is 1987?
45 A. '87.
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47 Q. In '87?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. Not '89?
51 A. No, not '89.
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53 Q. There was juggling in '87 as well?
54 A. There was juggling in '87. He stood round for a while
55 and then he walked away, and then over about the next 15
56 minutes it was half a dozen people, some of them carrying
57 placards, assembled and sat on the wall and then the chap
58 with the clubs came back. He took his jacket off, he had a
59 highly coloured shirt on. I think he put a hat on, and he
60 began a juggling act. I think on that occasion I put the
