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     1        1?
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   Q.   Is that the first statement that you made for this case
     5        about the publication side of things?
     6        A.  The first statement, the first of the two statements,
     7        yes.
     8
     9   Q.   Yes?
    10        A.  Yes.
    11
    12   Q.   It is right.  You said that the proof of that was taken by
    13        Mrs. Brinley-Codd in 1990?
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   And that at that time you had seen 3 protests outside the
    17        Head Office?
    18        A.  Well, I attended throughout in '87, because that was
    19        the first one.
    20
    Q.   Right.
    22        A.  I paid casual visits in '88.  I paid the 3 visits, plus
    23        driving past in '89.  I paid casual visits in '90, I think
    24        only twice, and I was not there in '91, '92.
    25
    26   Q.   You did not go to any of the other ones?
    27        A.  I was not at work, I was sick in '91 and sick in '92.
    28
    29   Q.   What about '93, '94 and '95?
    30        A.  No.
    31
    32   Q.   You did not go to any of them?
    33        A.  No, I was not really involved in security that time.
    34        I had taken up the role of ombudsman and that, I mean, that
    35        was just the security of the building, it did not affect me
    36        at all.  I may have walked out on one or two occasions.
    37        I cannot remember having done so.  I may have done out of
    38        just interest, but I did not attend for any purpose.
    39
    40   Q.   You were still Vice President with responsibilities for the
         security were you not?
    42        A.  When?
    43
    44   Q.   By '93, '94, '95?
    45        A.  No.
    46
    47   Q.   No?
    48        A.  No, I had been appointed ombudsman.  There had been a
    49        reshake of the hierarchy of the structure within the
    50        department, within the Company.  Security went to Marcus 
    51        Hewson, personnel went to Andy Taylor and franchising went 
    52        to Marcus Hewson.  I had been a long time sick and they had 
    53        appointed Vice Presidents to look after the departments in
    54        my absence, and when I came back I was offered the post of
    55        ombudsman and those departments were reallocated.
    56
    57   Q.   But you still had an interest in the case?
    58        A.  I had an interest in this case, I was still fighting
    59        it.
    60