Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 15


     
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     2   Q.   Are those the two people?
     3        A.  They were not there.  I stood roughly where they were.
     4
     5   Q.   I know, that is where you were standing, but those are the
     6        2 men?
     7        A.  Yes.
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     9   Q.   Now, you see there is a group of people in the foreground.
    10        There is a man with what looks a bit like a beret, or it
    11        may be a gilded bonnet, with some glasses.  Do you see
    12        that?
    13        A.  Yes.
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    15   Q.   Then there is a child and somebody else -- I cannot tell
    16        what gender -- and a woman bending down; you see that?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   If you turn over, please, to paragraph 22?
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.  "Helen Steel had by now abandoned the black man and was
    23        talking to another yellow female protester.  They were
    24        approximately in the position occupied by the police
    25        constable in photograph 17, directly in my line of sight,
    26        and no more than a few yards from where I was standing"?
    27        A.  That is correct.
    28
    29   Q.   17 is the bottom photograph on page 9, Mr. Nicholson?
    30        A.  Yes.
    31
    32   Q.   And we can see the police constable?
    33        A.  Yes.
    34
    35   Q.   Whose helmet is just in line with that vertical course of
    36        bricks.  Roughly speaking, looking at photograph 17, one
    37        can compare it with photograph 10, roughly speaking, where
    38        do you think you were standing?
    39        A.  I would be off the picture to the left.
    40
    41   Q.   To the left?
    42        A.  Just.
    43
    44   Q.   Yes.  If you compare the two, 10 and 17, you can see that
    45        there are two people, men, at the left hand end of that
    46        banner; do you see that?
    47        A.  Yes.
    48
    49   Q.   One has a red jacket and one has a green one on -- it maybe
    50        a cardigan? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Are you looking at 17 or at 10?
    54        A.  I am looking at both.
    55
    56   Q.   Yes.  They appear to have changed places as between the
    57        two; which is the earlier in time I cannot tell.
    58        A.  Yes.
    59
    60   Q.   So, you would have been, if the two men in 10 are right, a

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