Day 208 - 24 Jan 96 - Page 13


     
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     2   Q.   So you agreed with it in some respects, but you did feel
     3        that where a Manager was complained about some kind of
     4        action would be taken?
     5        A.  From having been discussed at a rap session myself,
     6        no.  The Store Manager would talk to the individual
     7        Manager; and I would say the Managers that had been talked
     8        about and complained about had actually made the effort to
     9        change.
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    11   Q.   Under "Job image":  "Which aspects of the job do you not
    12        enjoy?"  "Pay." "How could McDonald's improve its image as
    13        an employer?"  "More pay."  You did not speak out and
    14        disagree with those at the time?
    15        A.  I did not disagree with those, no, because it is very
    16        much dependent upon the people that are there.  If you look
    17        at another one, the pay appears to be in the "good"
    18        section.
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    20   Q.   But at the meeting that you were attending, you agreed with
    21        that?
    22        A.  No, I did not say I agreed.  I would not have commented
    23        on it.
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    25   Q.   You did not feel strongly enough to disagree?
    26        A.  It -----
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    28   Q.   You would have been quite happy to get more pay?
    29        A.  There is no point in disagreeing.  It is a sort of free
    30        speech thing for the crew that are there.  If they feel
    31        like that, they are perfectly entitled to say it.
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    33   Q.   Are you not also entitled to say, "I disagree"?
    34        A.  I am, but I am not there to defend the Company.  So if
    35        they have a disagreement, they are perfectly able to act.
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    37   Q.   You agreed with it, did you not?
    38        A.  No, I did not.
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    40   Q.   That is why you did not say anything?
    41        A.  No, I did not agree with it in the slightest.
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    43   Q.   Do you normally just sit back and take no notice and not
    44        say anything when people say things that you disagree with?
    45        A.  It depends.  The majority of the time, the rap session
    46        is held in the middle of the week at a point where
    47        everybody is going to go out for a drink afterwards, and
    48        you do not really want to make the meeting any longer than
    49        it has to be.
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    51   Q.   So it is something that has to be gone through and got out 
    52        of the way to conform to the Company procedures? 
    53        A.  No.  It is the crew, the individual crew, that go.
    54        Basically, they are happy to go along and discuss their
    55        problems, but they do not want somebody standing up
    56        saying, "I disagree with this", for whatever reason, if it
    57        is a negative point.  If it is a negative point, then you
    58        leave it as a negative point.  It is the way it works.
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    60   Q.   But they do, do they not, because normally it is noted when

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