Day 198 - 08 Dec 95 - Page 20
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2 Q. Right.
3 A. -- or on par with the Floor Manager rate, if I remember
4 correctly.
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6 Q. About the McDonald's Freedom Fighters, you were asked about
7 that yesterday: The process of getting rid of the people
8 who were involved, was that done rapidly or was that over a
9 period of time with a number of discussions at different
10 meetings or what?
11 A. By that I mean it was weeks as opposed to days, if I
12 remember. It was not, sort of, like meeting today, or all
13 gone tomorrow. It would have happened over a period of
14 weeks, if I remember correctly.
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16 Q. Right. Was there just the one meeting about that or was
17 there more than that?
18 A. I can only actually remember one meeting with more than
19 two or three people involved. There might have been
20 discussions on a one to one between other people about how
21 a certain thing was going to be done, but there was only
22 one main meeting, as I remember.
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24 Q. Right. Yesterday there were a number of references to
25 parts of your performance reviews where Mark Davis was said
26 to be telling you to hire more people. Did you want to
27 hire more people or were you, you know, deliberately trying
28 to keep ------
29 A. As I said yesterday, it was always a never ending
30 cycle. In times of high business, you did not have enough
31 an then when it was quiet you had too many, and coupled
32 with that that we tended to get a lot of students, people
33 involved with the Army because of where we were, we were
34 obviously always losing and gaining crew all the time. So
35 it was just an on-going -- it was something that through
36 the time I was a Manager was always there and as an
37 Assistant Manager, we were always hiring or losing crew.
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39 Q. Was it quite easy to hire people or?
40 A. It became -- at one stage it was fairly easy but then
41 it became very difficult towards the mid 80s. We went
42 through a period when it was very, very difficult to get
43 enough people in.
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45 Q. Do you know why that was?
46 A. It was just there was -- there did not seem to be that
47 many people on the market to actually go for, where before
48 there was people looking for work. So we tended then to be
49 looking at part-timers. A reference was made to the Army
50 wife because the husbands were away so they had free time
51 on their hands, school leavers and that type of thing.
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53 The type of people that tended to want to work were always
54 the younger people anyway. Older people either did not
55 feel that the wages were high enough or would not actually
56 take the discipline and the way they were expected to
57 work. So, it was really -- you were looking for that
58 younger market which everyone was trying to capture at the
59 same time and other companies were possibly paying better
60 rates and had better conditions.