Day 193 - 28 Nov 95 - Page 05


     
     1        A.  I am sorry?  What time did you give me?
     2
     3   Q.   I do not want to shout at you, because it may seem
     4        impolite.  Are you having difficulty hearing me?
     5        A.  A little bit.
     6
     7   Q.   Do you remember telling us yesterday that you had a
     8        conversation early in September 1993 with Travis Greenley?
     9        A.  Yes.
    10
    11   Q.   About the union?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   Q.   Do you remember saying that you thought he was a first
    15        assistant?
    16        A.  Yes. I know that he was a salaried manager at that
    17        point.
    18
    19   Q.   Will you accept that at that time he was a newly promoted
    20        second assistant?
    21        A.  Yes, I will.
    22
    23   Q.   The important thing is this:  you told us yesterday that he
    24        was not interested, personally; yes?
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   And that he said that McDonald's had a protocol for
    28        everything, that they would shut you down, that it would
    29        not work, and that Head Office knew how to handle
    30        everything?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   Q.   Those are your words; you said that yesterday?
    34        A.  Yes.
    35
    36   Q.   He did not say anything about Head Office having a
    37        protocol, did he?
    38        A.  Yes, he did.
    39
    40   Q.   I suggest that he said merely that, in his opinion, you
    41        would not get very far?
    42        A.  No.  He told me that Head Office has a protocol
    43        procedure for everything, that McDonald's would not allow
    44        this to happen.
    45
    46   Q.   That conversation, if he had said what you say he said,
    47        would have provided valuable ammunition for the union in
    48        its application for certification, would it not?
    49        A.  I do not know.  It would be up to the lawyers.
    50 
    51   Q.   Did you tell the union about this conversation? 
    52        A.  More than likely, yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   Did you or did you not?
    55        A.  I cannot remember if I exactly told him on a specific
    56        day, but I am saying more than likely I would have told
    57        them about it.
    58
    59   Q.   They did not use it, did they, in the proceedings?
    60        A.  They did not use what, sorry?

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