Day 154 - 13 Jul 95 - Page 10


     
     1        (To the witness)  Have you got your statement -- tab 33?
     2
     3   THE WITNESS:  Which paragraph is it, please?
     4
     5   MS. STEEL:   It is page 215, paragraph 18.
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   The paragraph, you would agree, does indicate that it was
     9        members of the McDonald's Freedom Fighters who had walked
    10        out of a shift after a disagreement with the shift running
    11        manager; yes?
    12        A.  Yes, that is what I said in the statement.
    13
    14   Q.   And that you said the matter had gone too far and that it
    15        should stop or there would be trouble, or something similar
    16        to that?
    17        A.  That is right, yes.
    18
    19   Q.   So what was the trouble that you saw as being on its way;
    20        what kind of disciplinary action were you -----
    21        A.  The example, the sort of type of example I recalled a
    22        moment ago was, say, for instance, you did a floor plan at
    23        the beginning of the shift and put them down to work in the
    24        kitchen, perhaps they would say:  "I want to work on the
    25        till today", so you would have to enter into a sort of a
    26        lengthy discussion with them as to where you would like
    27        them to work that day.  Obviously, if the whole shift was
    28        coming in and wanted to work on different areas, then it
    29        would cause a problem.  If three or four of them were
    30        working on the same shift, then you could not always
    31        accommodate their wishes.  It was sort of fairly feeble
    32        little things like that.
    33
    34   Q.   You did not actually answer the question.  What kind of
    35        action was management going to take if the trouble did not
    36        stop?
    37        A.  I cannot remember specifically, but I mean -----
    38
    39   Q.   It would have been some kind of disciplinary action?
    40        A.  Because they were fairly immature or felt that -- or,
    41        you know, did not realise they were being disruptive, they
    42        were just treating it as a bit of joke.  So if I did speak
    43        to them, then it would have been just a sort of friendly
    44        warning that we have a business to run, and if they are
    45        going to behave in a childish manner, then it is not
    46        conducive to operating a business.
    47
    48   Q.   If they carry on walking out on shifts, then somebody may
    49        come down on them and say:  "This has to stop"?
    50        A.  If they continued walking out on shifts, then we would 
    51        obviously ----- 
    52 
    53   Q.   Sorry -- "We are going to take some kind of disciplinary
    54        action against you"?
    55        A.  If they continued to walk off shifts, then we obviously
    56        would have had no choice but to take disciplinary action
    57        against them.
    58
    59   Q.   That would have been what you said to them?
    60        A.  It may have been.  That was recalling, you know, in

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