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     1        want to say, and then Mr. Morris can ask you a further
     2        question.
     3        A.  Sister Marie Lucy told us that that she was satisfied
     4        with the information that we had given her.  She also had
     5        asked us for a statement of principles in this area.  With
     6        that, after receiving that, she said she was satisfied, and
     7        did not suggest, to my knowledge, ever again that there
     8        would be a shareholder proposal, that I am aware of.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS:  But you know that she did suggest that she was
    11        thinking of a shareholders' proposal?
    12        A.  That is what I believe precipitated her writing, her
    13        contacting us and then writing to me, setting up a meeting;
    14        that is what my recollection was.  I think that was the
    15        purpose of meeting in New York, because she wanted to find
    16        out more about this, because she was considering a
    17        shareholders' proposal; and the gist of McDonald's contact
    18        with her at that time dealt with satisfying her concerns
    19        and interests in that area.
    20
    21   Q.   If the meeting is in May 1992, what is the last possible
    22        date that a shareholders' resolution could be brought up or
    23        be prepared?
    24        A.  I really do not know.  I have no idea.  I do not get
    25        involved with the mechanics of shareholder proposals or
    26        shareholder proposals unless there is inquiry by someone in
    27        my particular field, but I do not get involved with the
    28        proposal per se.  That is handled by a different
    29        department.
    30
    31   Q.   Would you accept that she would have been able, she and the
    32        other shareholders that had indicated you to you their
    33        interest in a shareholders' resolution could have, at any
    34        time in that year up to May 1992, decided to go for a
    35        shareholders's resolution, could they not?
    36        A.  Does she have a right as a shareholder to do that?
    37
    38   Q.   Yes.
    39        A.  Absolutely.
    40
    41   Q.   Then people in the Corporation would want to see a copy of
    42        the original document, would they not?
    43        A.  I was the person who was handling this matter in
    44        Philadelphia.  If someone had an interest in that document
    45        or anything more, they would have come to have seen me.
    46        No one requested any further information than what I had.
    47
    48   Q.   Yes.  You were entirely the person responsible for this
    49        matter and the existence of the TFP&C document, and it
    50        could not have been destroyed without your authority, could 
    51        it? 
    52        A.  Sir, we do not -- there no such thing as with or 
    53        without authority; we do not work in that fashion.  I have
    54        responsibility for this area.  There is no question about
    55        that.  No one else had a responsibility for this area.
    56        That is true as well, sir.
    57
    58   Q.   Your head would be on the block, would it not, if
    59        shareholders bring up a proposal, it is controversial,
    60        McDonald's is shown to not even have basic data on which to

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