Day 140 - 22 Jun 95 - Page 29

     
     1   MS. STEEL:  Where does it say that it was looking back at the
     2        two months when the PUP survey was done?
     3        A.  I know what they did.  It is probably in here
     4        somewhere, but I cannot put my finger on it.
     5
     6   Q.   What happened to this report?
     7        A.  It was given to various community leaders and others.
     8
     9   Q.   No.  Mr. Rampton asked you whether you presented the
    10        conclusions to the black clergy, the sisters, and so on and
    11        so forth, and you said "yes"?
    12        A.  That is correct.
    13
    14   Q.   They never saw the report, did they?
    15        A.  They saw what we have in front of us.
    16
    17   Q.   Right -- which is not the report?
    18        A.  It is not all of the work of TPF & C, that is correct.
    19
    20   Q.   It is not the report, is it?
         A.  This is a summary of that report.
    22
    23   Q.   It is not the report, though?
    24        A.  It is a summary of that report.  The pages here are
    25        extracts from that report.  The wording of the methodology,
    26        etcetera, is from that report.  It is not our words.
    27
    28   Q.   Why did you not ever release the full report to the
    29        community organisations?
    30        A.  We offered it to the black ministers and we offered it
    31        to Sister Marie-Lucy, who I met with several sisters.
    32
    33   Q.   When did you offer it to them?
    34        A.  There were several meetings in Philadelphia with black
    35        ministers, that I attended over about a year and a half
    36        period, and, during those meetings, I offered to go over
    37        with them anything they wanted to go over.  With
    38        Sister Marie-Lucy, I had a meeting in New York -- and
    39        I cannot recall exactly -- we did not meet in Philadelphia;
    40        her office was in New York.  Subsequent to that first
         meeting, I offered -- because she still had some questions
    42        -- to meet with her again and to give her whatever
    43        additional data she wanted.
    44
    45   Q.   If you turn to tab 89?
    46        A.  Which book, the one we are in?
    47
    48   Q.   Same one.  The date on this letter is January 15th, 1990,
    49        although I believe it is a mistake with the date, because
    50        the letters appear to be in chronological order. 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, It is plainly a mistake.  If one looks at 
    53        the body of the letter, one sees two things:  first, there
    54        is a date of 30th April 1990, and reference to a newspaper
    55        article; more, there is a reference to the Gulf Crisis
    56        which we all know was in January 1991.
    57
    58   THE WITNESS:   Yes.  I met Sister Marie way after this thing
    59        started.
    60