Day 120 - 03 May 95 - Page 21
1 A. It does negotiate about pay. They have a -- I am not
2 terribly au fait with that. I was never an active member
3 of the Federation.
4
5 Q. Is there a rank limit on membership of the Federation?
6 A. Yes.
7
8 Q. Up to?
9 A. Chief Inspector.
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11 Q. Including Chief Inspector?
12 A. Including Chief Inspector. They each have their
13 different representative body. There is the Inspectors
14 branch, the Sergeants branch and the Constables branch.
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16 Q. Are subscriptions deducted from pay at source?
17 A. Yes, it is very small. I am not really au fait either
18 with what union subscriptions are, but for the Police
19 Federation it was very small, but as for the Chief
20 Superintendents Association -----
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22 Q. The other matter, does everyone when they become a
23 Constable join automatically or is it completely a matter
24 of choice, do you know -- perhaps I should say in your day?
25 A. Yes.
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27 Q. You were a member?
28 A. I think -- oh, yes. I paid my subscriptions simply --
29 I think I was told I was a member. You automatically
30 became a member of the Police Federation ---
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32 Q. That is what I wondered.
33 A. -- and there was a deduction from your salary; as I
34 said, it was not much. I remember in the very early days
35 when I first started and you were paid in cash, the Police
36 Federation member sat by the pay table and you dropped
37 your, I think it was, thruppence.
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39 Q. Yes. Thank you. I just wanted to know how close that
40 might be to other unions.
41 A. I do not think, other than for people who were really
42 interested, I do not think that the general, the average
43 P.C. was terribly interested, certainly when I was in.
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45 Q. Whether that is so or not, you have explained the way it
46 worked. What are you going on to next, Mr. Morris?
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48 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): I just want to ask one question
49 about Liverpool to try to fix the year?
50 A. I keep thinking 1988; it must have been around about
51 that time. I cannot pin it any closer.
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53 Q. You were Head of Personnel at the time?
54 A. Oh, yes.
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56 Q. Had you regathered your Head of Security position at that
57 time -----
58 A. Yes, I think -- in fact, I think was a Vice President
59 so that would be after 1987. If you are a sports
60 representative, there is one other indication I can give
