Day 120 - 03 May 95 - Page 17

     
     1        was some time after, fairly soon after, the Hackney and
     2        East Ham meeting?
     3        A.  The only thing I remember quite clearly in my mind it
     4        was the day of the Grand National and it was at Liverpool.
     5
     6   Q.   At this meeting, there was the store Manager, the
     7        Supervisor -- there were four, you said there were four?
     8        A.  Yes, Peter Richards was there.
     9
    10   Q.   What is he?
    11        A.  He was the Regional Manager.  This was a formal crew
    12        meeting.
    13
    14   Q.   When you say "normal", it was compulsory?
    15        A.  There were people in crew uniform there.  It was quite
    16        a large meeting.  They dealt with many other things besides
    17        this particular one.
    18
    19   Q.   Sorry, they dealt with many other things -- what kind of
    20        things did they deal with then?
         A.  The normal things that a crew meeting would deal with;
    22        response to a rap session, conditions in the restaurant,
    23        conditions of the restaurant, attitude between management
    24        and staff.  It was a formal crew meeting.
    25
    26   Q.   So it is compulsory to attend?
    27        A.  Well, it is as compulsory as far as you can make it.
    28        Obviously, if people have a good reason for not attending
    29        then ---
    30
    31   Q.   Right.
    32        A.  -- they are allowed not to attend.
    33
    34   Q.   Did you say the name of the store -- I think you did?
    35        A.  Liverpool.
    36
    37   Q.   No, the actual store; is there just one store in Liverpool?
    38        A.  I think at that time there was.
    39
    40   Q.   Was it a large store?
         A.  Yes.
    42
    43   Q.   So, do you know roughly what the full compliment of staff
    44        would have been?
    45        A.  No, I cannot remember.  I would have thought that -- I
    46        am really going off my memory now -- I would have thought
    47        that was between 40 and 50 people there; it was quite well
    48        attended.
    49
    50   Q.   I mean, the whole store would be -- what would the staffing 
    51        levels of the store would be? 
    52        A.  No.  We could turn up the 1993 record which would give 
    53        an indication of what it would be from the papers you have
    54        got.
    55
    56   Q.   Right, but it is a large store?
    57        A.  It was a fairly busy store.
    58
    59   Q.   So we are talking about round about 80 or 100 or something?
    60        A.  Yes, I think the reason we chose that particular